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September 8th, 2009 - 12:26
There are over 60 MILLION cars on the road in the USA today, in no way could ‘thousands’ be described as a majority.
I don’t need to see every car in the US to know I’m correct. I have official figures here TELLING me that less than 2% of cars in the US reach the age of 20. It’s all in black and white.
You’re not the brightest bulb in the box are you?
September 8th, 2009 - 12:44
my car is 20 yrs old and y grandparents both still own there 1st cars. a 57 belverdere in like sum pink color and a 57 red and white bel air sedan. u said car rarely live past 13
September 8th, 2009 - 12:51
No. Hybrids are a step in the right direction, but while they emit less CO2, they still burn gasoline and they still emit carbon dioxide, which causes global warming.
If everyone drove a hybrid instead of a regular gas car, we would reduce worldwide greenhouse gas emissions, but not nearly enough to stop global warming.
Electric cars would reduce emissions even further, although they also are responsible for some CO2 emissions because some of our power comes from coal power plants, and burning coal emits CO2 as well. However, electric cars create less CO2 emissions than even hybrids.
In addition to switching to hybrids and electric cars, we need to take more steps. For example, becoming more energy efficient, swithing to renewable power plants and getting rid of coal power plants, biking and using public transportation, etc.
September 8th, 2009 - 13:09
Someone didn't do their math, that's all. Personally, I can't see paying even $10,000 for something that will be virtually worthless in 10 years. And I especially can't see paying $30,000 for something that will only be worth $19,000 the moment I drive if off the lot!
September 8th, 2009 - 13:45
HAVE U NOT SEEN THE THOUSANDS OF PLYTHOUTHS AND CHEVYIES FROM THE 50S AND 60S ON THE ROAD. There is a a guy i kno who has 3 different for model A cars. ALL FUNCTION PROPERLY AND ARE STOCK
September 8th, 2009 - 15:26
You know ALL cars can last for a long time, even 10, 20, 30 years. It all depends on one thing: How much care the car gets. Geez, everyone thinks that the Prius will not last a long time. News flash: It depends on the driver and how well he/she takes care of it. Why do you think a lot of American cars break down or even any car breaks down in 5-10 years? Because of the owner. Not the car.
September 8th, 2009 - 16:23
You should look at a life cycle analysis of hybrid vehicles. If you type it in on Google (or better, Google Scholar) you'll find a bunch of info.
This would take into consideration everything that went into building the car, the lifetime of the car, and the disposal.
Typically when hybrids are promoted to consumers, only the fuel efficiency while the car is actually in use is considered, but there are other things involved in the car's life cycle.
There is a lot of complexity involved in such an analysis, but I think the general consensus among the scientific community is that Hybrid is better than New, but a used car is better than a hybrid.
It's still better to get a fuel efficient old car, (such as an old Saturn), rather than a new hybrid.
September 8th, 2009 - 19:05
Simple solutions to all!
Firstly, legislate gas milage requirements that only hybrids can meet (with the appropriate exceptions for heavy duty work vehicles). This has worked in other countries. There is just plain no excuse for buying a new vehicle that doesn't get 30 miles to the gallon now.
The manufacturers can easily build that many hybrids. After all, they can build that many non-hybrids. The only real difference is the battery cells. And if you recycle those (answer to the third question) that just makes the whole process much easier.
I'd love to know which hybrids don't get more milage per gallon of gas than their non-hybrid counterparts. It just doesn't make sense.
Edit: after seeing the dolts below me, another thought comes to mind: Educate people as to exactly how hybrids work!
The battery doesn't need charging. You don't plug a hybrid in. When you brake, instead of stopping the wheels entirely like a normal car, a hybrid will engage a flywheel to charge the battery through magnetic induction. The resistance of this flywheel both slows the car down and charges the battery up. This is called "regenerative braking".
And you, "Just me" you wouldn't know a hybrid if it ran you over. Everything you said is completely wrong. Are you working for Fox News?!
Edit #2: The Honda Accord sucked.
September 8th, 2009 - 20:17
98hp XD
September 8th, 2009 - 21:16
I’m wrong? According to what? A quick Google shows that the average life span of a car is 13.5 years and that less than 2% of cars ever reach the age of 20.
September 8th, 2009 - 22:05
hybrids SUCK !!!
they use more fuel than a BMW M3 for crist sake. even the kewet el jet is a better car than those hybrids. no wonder hybrids dont sell well outside the US.
September 9th, 2009 - 05:40
Companies currently offering hybrid cars:
Toyota – Prius, Camry, Highlander, Lexus LS-h, GS-h, RX-h.
Nissan – Altima Hybrid
Ford – Escape Hybrid, Mercury Mariner Hybrid, Mazda Tribute Hybrid.
Honda – Civic Hybrid. (new Insight hybrid next year).
GM – Chevy Malibu, Tahoe, Saturn Aura, Vue, GMC Yukon, Cadillac Escalade.
Chrysler – Aspen Hybrid.
The only two hybrid cars that have no regular-car counterpart are the Toyota Prius and Honda Insight. All the other hybrids are regular cars modified to receive a hybrid drivetrain.
Mercedes Benz, BMW and other carmakers are not currently offering hybrids, but will starting next year.
September 9th, 2009 - 06:29
mmm ur wrong….very wrong
September 9th, 2009 - 07:48
Yes, another way the manufacturer is tricking everyone into this hybrid crap.
If you want a good mpg vehicle, get a diesel. If something were to break on it, a good old mechanic/ or backyard mechanic can fix it. For a lot cheaper too.
September 9th, 2009 - 16:08
A Mustang does not look like a normal car. *LOL*
To be honest, every new car model takes a while to get familiar with. For the Prius, this is behind me. I rather like the car now.
FYI, outside the US nobody drives Mustang. Too old design and too low mileage per liter. just not sustainable in the real world.
September 9th, 2009 - 16:36
My First and my last Hybrids. Hybrids is a P.O.S because we have a 2004 honda civic hybrids and here what happened, the battery died on it so we had it replaced today and it cost us $5000 and the warranty would not cover it. because your just saving money on gas just to replace the batery and whats worst it has a bad handling very weak AC and there unconfortable.
September 9th, 2009 - 20:09
The electric part of the hybrid vehicle is only used in town for stop and go or low speed operation. Most hybrids use their gasoline engines for highway driving, and while the gasoline engine is running, it also recharges the batteries.
September 10th, 2009 - 08:12
The three best hybrids are:
Toyota Prius
Honda Insight
Ford Fusion
Don't buy a "mild hybrid" that doesn't actually propel the car with batteries. Some SUVs say they're hybrids, but don't really save much gas.
Hybrids make the most sense in a city or where your mom is driving relatively slow speeds (e.g., 30 miles per hour).
September 10th, 2009 - 10:59
i have a 1988 nissan 300zx, thats how many years old??? 20 years old
September 10th, 2009 - 13:12
… and that fact contradicts my statement how?
September 10th, 2009 - 15:28
GM and Chysler already have the hybrid drivetrain technology to build trucks. Back a few years ago, GM, Daimler-Chrysler (back when the two companies were still merged) and BMW all joined forces to develop the 2-Mode hybrid transmission, and it is used in production vehicles. It took 2 years to develop the 2-mode system.
GM put the 2-mode system in its Tahoe Hybrid, Yukon Hybrid and Escalade Hybrids. Chrysler put it in its Aspen Hybrid (which they stopped building two months ago because it wasn't selling well). Daimler/Mercedes Benz is going to put the 2-mode in an upcoming car, but hasn't made any announcements. And BMW will be putting the 2-mode system in its upcoming X6 ActiveHybrid SUV.
September 11th, 2009 - 02:17
Very few cars get to the age of 20, let alone 40.
September 11th, 2009 - 07:44
They charge their own batteries, so there is NOT the problem with power plants.
The trade off with them is that they are very expensive, they don't get THAT much more mileage, and battery replacement is astronomical!!
September 11th, 2009 - 07:58
Take a look at the curb weights.
A Civic 4-door from 1984 had a curb weight of 918 kg.
A 2008 Civic 4-door LX has a curb weight of 1194 kg.
Over the years, the cars have grown heavier– They have become bigger and included a lot more safety features.
The 2008 Civic LX is lugging 276 kg of extra weight above the 1984 model (a difference of almost 600 pounds), so gas mileage is going to suffer. Putting in a more efficient hybrid powertrain in the 2008 Civic simply gains back some of that gas mileage lost due to the weight gain.
That's why you can't really compare the hybrids today to the cars from 15 years ago– The cars are built to different structural and safety standards.
September 11th, 2009 - 08:49
I have a 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid and I have no problems on the highway. I can drive 60-70 mph, accelerate as necessary and still get 45-50 miles per gallon.
September 11th, 2009 - 13:49
They use the gasoline engine to drive the car and to charge the batteries.
September 11th, 2009 - 15:31
To me, the Honda Insight is the best car.
Every body should get it.
September 11th, 2009 - 15:33
So of the millions of cars on the road you deem my statement to be entirely incorrect because you know of three cars which are over the age of 20?
Upon you first calling me wrong I checked the figures for both Europe and North America and in both cases the average life expectancy of a car is around 13.5 years.
September 11th, 2009 - 16:27
oh please…..if you commute less than 20 miles a day and NEVER go 40 or 50 miles take a cab and sell the car
September 11th, 2009 - 19:51
I don't think there's any specific target market, unless you count environmentalists.
I own a Prius, and I'm a 26-year-old middle class dude. I've seen hybrid owners of all ages, though certainly poor people can't afford them.