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September 1st, 2009 - 12:27
Hybrids that have a mechanism to recharge the battery WITHOUT having to plug it into an electric outlet definitly have more of a future than plug hybrids
September 1st, 2009 - 12:46
bearnurse1 unlike the Chevrolet Volt, Toyota and Honda don’t make plug in hybrids. The battery is recharged by the car’s motion; similiar to when you used to attach a small generator to your bicycle light and let the motion of the tire generate power for it.
September 1st, 2009 - 12:50
Someone didn't do their math, that's all. Personally, I can't see paying even $10,000 for something that will be virtually worthless in 10 years. And I especially can't see paying $30,000 for something that will only be worth $19,000 the moment I drive if off the lot!
September 1st, 2009 - 13:49
No. Hybrids are a step in the right direction, but while they emit less CO2, they still burn gasoline and they still emit carbon dioxide, which causes global warming.
If everyone drove a hybrid instead of a regular gas car, we would reduce worldwide greenhouse gas emissions, but not nearly enough to stop global warming.
Electric cars would reduce emissions even further, although they also are responsible for some CO2 emissions because some of our power comes from coal power plants, and burning coal emits CO2 as well. However, electric cars create less CO2 emissions than even hybrids.
In addition to switching to hybrids and electric cars, we need to take more steps. For example, becoming more energy efficient, swithing to renewable power plants and getting rid of coal power plants, biking and using public transportation, etc.
September 1st, 2009 - 17:33
another con is the performance, i dont have 12 seconds to get to 60
September 1st, 2009 - 21:23
what about lithium batteries? recycled as well?
September 2nd, 2009 - 01:45
you have to be a complete moron to waste your money on a hybrid
September 2nd, 2009 - 14:15
I have a 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid and I have no problems on the highway. I can drive 60-70 mph, accelerate as necessary and still get 45-50 miles per gallon.
September 2nd, 2009 - 15:02
It seems to me the most important issues about batteries which you didn’t mention is: how to recharge them. Even if you have a garage to park the car in at night while it is recharging, what about if you are in a motel on a trip? and your room is far from your parking space, and what if you are trying to plug the extension cord into the car in the pouring rain?
September 2nd, 2009 - 19:23
They use the gasoline engine to drive the car and to charge the batteries.
September 3rd, 2009 - 03:00
You should look at a life cycle analysis of hybrid vehicles. If you type it in on Google (or better, Google Scholar) you'll find a bunch of info.
This would take into consideration everything that went into building the car, the lifetime of the car, and the disposal.
Typically when hybrids are promoted to consumers, only the fuel efficiency while the car is actually in use is considered, but there are other things involved in the car's life cycle.
There is a lot of complexity involved in such an analysis, but I think the general consensus among the scientific community is that Hybrid is better than New, but a used car is better than a hybrid.
It's still better to get a fuel efficient old car, (such as an old Saturn), rather than a new hybrid.
September 3rd, 2009 - 03:06
Companies currently offering hybrid cars:
Toyota – Prius, Camry, Highlander, Lexus LS-h, GS-h, RX-h.
Nissan – Altima Hybrid
Ford – Escape Hybrid, Mercury Mariner Hybrid, Mazda Tribute Hybrid.
Honda – Civic Hybrid. (new Insight hybrid next year).
GM – Chevy Malibu, Tahoe, Saturn Aura, Vue, GMC Yukon, Cadillac Escalade.
Chrysler – Aspen Hybrid.
The only two hybrid cars that have no regular-car counterpart are the Toyota Prius and Honda Insight. All the other hybrids are regular cars modified to receive a hybrid drivetrain.
Mercedes Benz, BMW and other carmakers are not currently offering hybrids, but will starting next year.
September 3rd, 2009 - 04:53
Take a look at the curb weights.
A Civic 4-door from 1984 had a curb weight of 918 kg.
A 2008 Civic 4-door LX has a curb weight of 1194 kg.
Over the years, the cars have grown heavier– They have become bigger and included a lot more safety features.
The 2008 Civic LX is lugging 276 kg of extra weight above the 1984 model (a difference of almost 600 pounds), so gas mileage is going to suffer. Putting in a more efficient hybrid powertrain in the 2008 Civic simply gains back some of that gas mileage lost due to the weight gain.
That's why you can't really compare the hybrids today to the cars from 15 years ago– The cars are built to different structural and safety standards.
September 3rd, 2009 - 05:28
3000 more for a hybrid?
2009 Civic = 15,000
2009 Civic Hybrid = 23,800
??????
September 3rd, 2009 - 05:34
i dont think you recharge them.. hybrids make their own electricity whenever you brake i think.
September 3rd, 2009 - 07:19
oh please…..if you commute less than 20 miles a day and NEVER go 40 or 50 miles take a cab and sell the car
September 3rd, 2009 - 16:24
The three best hybrids are:
Toyota Prius
Honda Insight
Ford Fusion
Don't buy a "mild hybrid" that doesn't actually propel the car with batteries. Some SUVs say they're hybrids, but don't really save much gas.
Hybrids make the most sense in a city or where your mom is driving relatively slow speeds (e.g., 30 miles per hour).
September 3rd, 2009 - 20:04
They charge their own batteries, so there is NOT the problem with power plants.
The trade off with them is that they are very expensive, they don't get THAT much more mileage, and battery replacement is astronomical!!
September 4th, 2009 - 05:29
Simple solutions to all!
Firstly, legislate gas milage requirements that only hybrids can meet (with the appropriate exceptions for heavy duty work vehicles). This has worked in other countries. There is just plain no excuse for buying a new vehicle that doesn't get 30 miles to the gallon now.
The manufacturers can easily build that many hybrids. After all, they can build that many non-hybrids. The only real difference is the battery cells. And if you recycle those (answer to the third question) that just makes the whole process much easier.
I'd love to know which hybrids don't get more milage per gallon of gas than their non-hybrid counterparts. It just doesn't make sense.
Edit: after seeing the dolts below me, another thought comes to mind: Educate people as to exactly how hybrids work!
The battery doesn't need charging. You don't plug a hybrid in. When you brake, instead of stopping the wheels entirely like a normal car, a hybrid will engage a flywheel to charge the battery through magnetic induction. The resistance of this flywheel both slows the car down and charges the battery up. This is called "regenerative braking".
And you, "Just me" you wouldn't know a hybrid if it ran you over. Everything you said is completely wrong. Are you working for Fox News?!
Edit #2: The Honda Accord sucked.
September 4th, 2009 - 06:59
a con is producing biofuels, which takes way more energy to produce than conventional fuels, so in the longrun, there are more emissions. way to go hybrid drivers.
September 4th, 2009 - 10:34
Yes, another way the manufacturer is tricking everyone into this hybrid crap.
If you want a good mpg vehicle, get a diesel. If something were to break on it, a good old mechanic/ or backyard mechanic can fix it. For a lot cheaper too.
September 4th, 2009 - 11:14
GM and Chysler already have the hybrid drivetrain technology to build trucks. Back a few years ago, GM, Daimler-Chrysler (back when the two companies were still merged) and BMW all joined forces to develop the 2-Mode hybrid transmission, and it is used in production vehicles. It took 2 years to develop the 2-mode system.
GM put the 2-mode system in its Tahoe Hybrid, Yukon Hybrid and Escalade Hybrids. Chrysler put it in its Aspen Hybrid (which they stopped building two months ago because it wasn't selling well). Daimler/Mercedes Benz is going to put the 2-mode in an upcoming car, but hasn't made any announcements. And BMW will be putting the 2-mode system in its upcoming X6 ActiveHybrid SUV.
September 4th, 2009 - 12:43
I don't think there's any specific target market, unless you count environmentalists.
I own a Prius, and I'm a 26-year-old middle class dude. I've seen hybrid owners of all ages, though certainly poor people can't afford them.
September 4th, 2009 - 15:34
Many hybrids are driving 100 000 miles but batteries are still good.
September 4th, 2009 - 16:44
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September 4th, 2009 - 20:07
The electric part of the hybrid vehicle is only used in town for stop and go or low speed operation. Most hybrids use their gasoline engines for highway driving, and while the gasoline engine is running, it also recharges the batteries.
September 4th, 2009 - 23:39
I don’t know of anyone who recycles lithium batteries